And 1 more thing HIS VENUS opposes my vertex and my sun, venus and mercury on his ASC conjucts his Venus! You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. The higher powers are always tapping at the door, insisting on change, cleansing, and renewal from within (Pluto/Uranus in Virgo), but how do you do that if your connection to the other world and the higher powers are full of fear and resistant to the necessary dissolving that must occur (Saturn in Pisces). Pluto, Sun, Venus & Mercury in the 12th/Virgo. I am surprised I did not find it and comment earlier, as I am still haunted by the same relationship 2 years after it ended. Who cares? With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . The Pluto struggle with the ego and power will engage with the partners planetsin a positive way, the partner can become a guide. Sometimes the path isnt easy to find, and we make lots of mistakes along the way. We have Sun,mercury,venus and jupiter in 12th house virgo. I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. But the problem with Neptune and XII house synastric connections, is that illusions seem to possess not your brain, but your flesh and soul. I read once if someones pluto is attached to his own north node that would mean if the person puts anything between himself and god he will loose it, because that is what Pluto teaches. I found so many answers and maybe some dissapointments as well :/. If you have Lilith in the 12 th house of your chart, her themes will manifest in terms of isolation, the shadow, and limitation. Good luck. So sad! The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. The Anti-Vertex, on the other hand, is located in the opposite house of the Vertex (the 11 th , 12 th , 1 st , 2 nd , or 3 rd houses), which relate to personal concerns . I just am hesitating. It often indicates couples who seem to have a lot of shared experience and shared historyeven if they are new to one another, it feels old. They recognize one another when they meet. Couples where the 12th is strong can often experiencewell, lets say itNeptunian weirdness. Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. Lilith in 12th House, Black Moon Lilith In Twelfth House; 1 Angel Number, 1 Angel Number Twin Flame. In synastry, the house the Moon is in will show the area of life that someone touches another on a deep and personal level. 12th house issues are not always supportive. What do You think about Davison Chart? )~~~a reader with Sun in Neptune and Saturn and Mars both in 12th house. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. *Also in synastry- my Vesta conjunct NN in Gemini are the degree right before his Ascendant. I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. It isnt bad, its difficult. Transit Neptune in the Composite 12th House. A lot of native speakers make this same mistake, and worse. The love you have for one another may be secret or private, and/or you are called upon to take a leap of faith in order to be with one another. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. Transit Pluto in the Composite 12th House. Its not special, its common. Im sorry, Kyveli, but this is too complex a question to answer in the space here. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Am I right in deducing that this relationship is more of an initiation? Ive recently broke up with what was felt the love of my life the most pure and locvng relationship ever. Your post was seemed most fitting for a romantic liaison. I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. Is this why I am feeling this more? Im not quick to say its an illusion, but its not quite real either, and you can get into some dangerous territory in the 12th by telling yourself things that arent really true. The empty space in Aries, would that be the outlet or where to focus all that energy? Then we hurt each other. We feel that very beautiful in our life! If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. What do You think about Davison Chart? Hi HGOf course, these articles cant contain every single exception, and the whole chart has to be taken into consideration. In the composite only our venus and moon are conjunct in the 12th. You have nailed my experience. Thank you SO very much for this post. Thank you. I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion. Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House. When your North Node is in the 12th house of your partner's natal chart, you will help the 12th house native become more spiritual and grow as a person. Of course, this can lead to overspending and a tendency to overvalue anything that is overindulgent and impractical, but the positive energy Jupiter brings will generally get you through it. I and my boyfriend have conjunction of mars-venus in twelfth house (taurus) closely conjuncting composite gemini ascendant. (Our North Node rulers often lead us down these blind alleyways.) Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. This is brilliant and compassionate. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! The Inner Wheel Recommended Astrology Reading Lists, Crucible and the Wheel: The Transiting Nodes Series. In other words, that planetary energy might have to do with dealing with their collective, rather than personal, expression. Hi Dawn. The 12th house is the culmination of all that has come before itits our last chance, our last ride, and planets there can often go to extremes without knowing why (they can blame it on the limitless nature of Pisces, which respects no boundaries). (One expression does not contra-indicate the other.). This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. It was helpful all of your comments about the rest of composite houses and I say Thank you again for this This depends on how well Lilith energy is being handled in the synastry and natal chart. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. (I have my moon in Scorpio in the 12th house along with Saturn and Pluto). The Moon squares Mercury and Venus in the 9th, Pluto and Saturn in the 3rd, and squares the MC. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. When there are clusters of planets there are no simple solutions. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. Im trying to determine the karmic lessons we need to learn from this. or sth. . Does that sound like enough glue to counter the 12th house effects? As Jeff Buckley puts it, hes a tear that hangs inside my soul forever. Thanks! our composite mars-venus conjunction opposes composite uranus, sun, mercury all conjunct from seventh house. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? We have (taurus) mars-venus conjunction on the 12th house and it is so real in our life: we need so strong the deep intimacy and the so close physical and spiritual nearness together, and it is better for us to be alone together for our happiness. For whatever reason, you may have a secret relationship . Could be a seperation. and he JUST asked me to lunch yesterday. There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. Again, sadly, this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. No one could share that kind of information with a person that he/she newly know. This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. An ex-lover and I share composite Sun/Mercury in the 12th. We become real magicians if we can tap into it. Its impossible to do one without composites or progressed composites. *Also in synastry- my 12th house Juno in Taurus also sits in his 12th house) Composite Pluto in the 9th house: There is an added layer of complexity to their combined life philosophy. Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. scares me a bit. Outer planets have to do with things that are beyond our control. When transit Pluto is in the composite 12th house, you may feel more powerful and connected in the relationship when its just the two of you, behind closed doors, no one to bother. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. Our strongest aspect is Saturn Trine Moon. To use Jeff Greens analogy, the ego believes it is an independent entity, but a developed ego is like a wave; it knows it is moving towards the shore, but it also knows that it will return to the ocean to which it belongs, the place of the Source or universal spirit. We see each other regularly in our spiritual activities, and yet live on opposite coasts, and though dedicated to each other 100% as spiritual allies (and possibly more), we have no intentions of giving up our day-to-day independence. She has great remorse about it and is seeking help to try and put an end to it. PS.. hes the very first guy I ever met who knew and talked about astrology! Also, forgive my double Virgo and the fact that I was once an editor: the phrase is unrequited love not unrequired. Sorry. What you are fascinated by is your own longing to acknowledge and feel this power. Also, I would think that the answer to your issues is not in the composite, but in your natal comparison. The Sun in 11th house synastry overlay creates an atmosphere of friendship between you. Guess our trines from Sun/Moon to Jupiter arent enough to off set. Thank you very much Dawn. We fall, and find the world. I was heart broken all over again. We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? and Ceres in Pisces in his 12th and all conjunct his lilith. If you dont like how someone operates, who cares how connected you are to them? He eventually ended it because he was afraid wed go into a dark place with each other again- our relationship was very intense, and my insecurities and control issues combined with his youthful sloppiness are what destroyed it. We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. Black Moon Lilith in 12th house suggests an interest in the occult and esoteric teachings. Two sides of the same coin. You need to work on bringing body and mind together, as a couple. I dont know whether this situation is karma? Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. 00 Angel Number, 00 Angel Number Twin Flame. I would like to help you, but you would need a full analysis of the charts to know what is going on with this 12th house energy. But I do have one question? I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. :In a composite chart: What does it mean when both people have juno in the 12 House? Transit Mercury in the Composite 12th House. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. For instance I have a Composite Taurus Sun at 1-2 degrees in the 12th Conjunct Taurus Eros (also in the 12th at 4 degrees), and the Taurus Asc at 5 degrees. (excuse my bad English) Reply. Transit Jupiter in the Composite 12th House. The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. And yes, with Uranus squaring, the tendency would be to want to break away rather than face what is wrong. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. One thing Ive noticed with these people is that other people usually notice their . Because, of Saturn and Pluto? Should I pay attention to that or to our individual charts? Im also interested in anything about twin flame relationships. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. The attraction was instant. Thank You so much for Your answer! You may now be more confused about the 12th house than you were at the beginning of this piece, but such is the nature of the 12th, beautiful and terrible. Just a knowing if you will. Oh the powers of the 12th house. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. When the transit Moon is in the composite 12th house, you may want some alone time together, wanting to share feelings but only when alone and no one else is around. Twelfth house composites can work very well if the people involved understand that they must work together and make a contribution of some kind, even to simply show a good example of what a couple can be. Just endings in general. Although Im aware this is only an illusion of my mind and nothing else , this illusion is so strong and so frequent that I ve at least learned to live with it and Ive given up struggling against it. This is where our own shadow meets the shadow of the collective. We are ignoring what the Source is asking us to do. I know that there is a purpose regarding this relationship, but i cant find it Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. 4 months passed since then. Here Black Moon Lilith is squaring both Venus/Mars (12th house) and the Moon (6th house) - both the most difficult houses in the composite chart, indicating an unequal partnership. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. Lilith in 8 th house composite. You may keep your feelings for each other to yourselves, not feeling safe expressing them for whatever reason. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. A trauma might have triggered you before, making you a reserved person now. It confuses us, as is appropriate with a house that Neptune rules. It feels that we are very free together than alone. So much uncertainty and confusion!! any input would be greatly appreciated!!! I could love this man more than my husband who is a caring man and in a way very similar to this man. Hello, Skye. First of all, head to astro.com head to extended chart selection . In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. I am not certain this person is a fit but yet there are alot of coincidences between us that keeps me boggled on the larger picture. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. Juno in the 12th means that there are unresolved issues surrounding equality in relationship and some sort of sacrifice in relationships will be necessary in order to discover that balance. It has been a long, hard road, but rewarding and with the planets in Cancer, SO hard to let go. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. His sun scorpio falls into my fourth house in my natal chart and mine ,cancer, falls into his 8th. Those of us with composite 12th emphasized will be asked to step away from the mundane and step into the world of the extraordinary, where unlikely connections are day to day things. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. In astrology, the Twelfth House governs the unconscious, addiction, jails, higher self, and psychic abilities. He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. By the way loved your above article and thank you for any info you provide : ) x, Thanks for writing this article. We have had such a difficult relationship. You mentioned that couples with 12th house emphasis usually come together for a specific purpose and once that is completed the relationship is destined to end (thats what I gathered anyway). I feel so relieved after reading it because I really thought i was crazy. They seem bonded before a word is spoken. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. That was over three years ago. Me and my friend have composite sun conj. They are the lilith wearing an "eve mask". He says what on thinking. Thanks. the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. They help us understand that our capacity to love is its own reward. but the rising is scorpio. And this is where we must reach out beyond our small lives to touch the greater life that is possible. How that manifests depends on other aspects. I felt like someone kicked me out of my home. Sun conj. 12th House : A busy 12th house is very difficult in a composite chart, since it's the house of the unconscious feelings and all things hidden, so there will be a lot of miscommunication between the two. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. Our midpoint composit cannot show any true about our relationship. Sun and Neptune both trine Lilith, who is in Pisces AND in house 12. I have learned to surrender much but our relationship isnt surviving, we cant let go altogether and cant seem to be together. Thanks so much Dawn. In composite we have north node in 12th. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! Weve known each other for a decade??? I never understood that statement could you put some light on it for me? I also have two stelliums in the 11th and 12th of my natal chart.a total of 8 planets (6 in Leo).
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